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Old May 01, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32   #41
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Certain Ritualist skills will continue to not affect or protect Guild Battle NPCs.
ugh poor rits. its like if there going to keep that they might as well make it so they cant get buffs from paras or healing from monks.
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Old May 01, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37   #42
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won't change anything for me, so yeh... update like most others - useless
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Old May 01, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38   #43
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ugh poor rits. its like if there going to keep that they might as well make it so they cant get buffs from paras or healing from monks.
Yes, they should get no shouts from paragons and no heals from monks because some of their skills do not affect GvG NPCs. I like your logic.
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Old May 01, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42   #44
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I have a question now that winter seems to be fixed: Is winter a good thing to have up while fighting destroyers? Yes right?
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Old May 01, 2008, 10:50 PM // 22:50   #45
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Yes, they should get no shouts from paragons and no heals from monks because some of their skills do not affect GvG NPCs. I like your logic.
i know right. i am commenting on the fact that some spirits do not affect npcs i should have quoted the non revert to reflect that. and the last time i checked you can put stuff like mending refrain on an npc in gvg. so im guessing they get the other buffs from shouts as well.
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Old May 01, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04   #46
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So they made a decent skill update. Oops, better revert that.


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Old May 01, 2008, 11:09 PM // 23:09   #47
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Anet's inept management of GW PvP game balance is matched only in scale by its success with the PvE side of the game.

After their complete unexplained shift in attitude towards PvP and PvE balance a reasonable person would have hoped that they would revert the skill balances that have a strong effect on PvE and keep the changes that were necessary for PvP. That would sound like a good compromise.

However the reality of Anets latest changes to the game is just another example of their heavy handed and rather confusing approach to game balance. Someone thought that buffing Dark Pact was a good idea, one week later, it was reverted, obviously not such a good idea after all. Just one of countless and to put it bluntly, clueless skill changes (like the wonderful addition of exhaustion to channeling rits). Is that particular insight into game balance an indication of their overall understanding of their own game after three years? Its pretty sad that people could come up with that Anet keyboard with all those hilarious buttons, but the unfortunate thing about satire is that it is quite often an accurate description of reality. That keyboard picture could probably be a true long lasting monument to GW PvP, one that can be thrust among Anets own self-confessed monuments (being the world championship series). One monument giving a deeper insight into GW PvP, the latter giving a superficial one.

If I was to write up the entire history of GW game balance in a neat paper and hand it to a university professor along with explanations for various changes, I would probably expect comments like ''this candidate shows a complete lack of understanding of the issues, although some merit can be awarded for his multiple attempts at seeking solutions. Unfortunately those solutions suggested rarely coincide with those already being considered in the field which is disappointing, and only reinforces the impression that the candidate lacked a grasp of the issues at hand given that they dont even have their own merit.'' Or ''This candidates begins with a promising range of ideas, however, as the study continues it becomes clear that the candidate has failed to fully grasp the actual reality of those ideas. The study ends with a range of complex and confusing solutions and implementations that fail to accomplish the promising objectives set out from the start.''

epic fail

Of course, another way to interpret changes like these is simply that Anet is trying to make statement about the status of their commitment to GW 1 PvP. Recent comments made by Izzy (game balancer) alluding to Anets decision to gradually stop diverting as many resources to PvP as development of GW 2 moves along. Eg automated tournaments, moving on to automated in-game prizes.

Cessation of PvP game balance following every monthly tournament is but a logical extension of that new focus... and perhaps following on from my post made commenting on the statement ''In order to reduce the possible negative impact on PvE play, we will be reverting the changes on May 1st. For future tournaments, we aim to focus on changes that will not impact PvE play at all.'
The way they will achieve this is to just stop doing any skill balances at all.

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PS: If you delete my post again I would like an explanation why...
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Old May 01, 2008, 11:14 PM // 23:14   #48
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* Song of Restoration: reverted recharge back to 20 seconds.
* Ballad of Restoration: reverted recharge back to 20 seconds.
Can you say Hell F#%$ing Yea!

To all my Paragon brothers and sisters: Go forth and PWN!
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Old May 01, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21   #49
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time to make a new little cute rit

"Reverted Was Izzy"
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Old May 01, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25   #50
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Can you say Hell F#%$ing Yea!

To all my Paragon brothers and sisters: Go forth and PWN!
Thank god, imbagons have been far underpowered for too long.
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Old May 01, 2008, 11:29 PM // 23:29   #51
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This revert was a stupid idea if there ever was one.

OMG PVE BALANCE!...

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Old May 01, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44   #52
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time to make a new little cute rit

"Reverted Was Izzy"
more like "Nerf is Izzy"
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Old May 01, 2008, 11:51 PM // 23:51   #53
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... bye bye chaos storm. It was nice having your swirly goodness on my bar for a little bit.

I can't believe Winter finally got fixed. lol took AGES.

I just don't understand the need for the change and reversion in the first place.
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Izzy "dizzy" thinks his "BN's" are sooooooooo bad that he has to change the skills so his "brownnoses" at least have a small chance in a tournament.
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Old May 01, 2008, 11:52 PM // 23:52   #54
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Fixed a bug with skills that convert damage from one type to another, such as Stone Striker and Greater Conflagration. The converted damage was working incorrectly with armor bonuses and penalties.
i am glad that it has taken 3 years for them to fix this.
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Old May 02, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06   #56
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I thought maybe they would remove Ursan or something with this revert, because it was for PvE balance after all.

PvP will probably be abandoned in GW2.
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Old May 02, 2008, 12:15 AM // 00:15   #58
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so baddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
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Old May 02, 2008, 12:38 AM // 00:38   #59
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ffs, it's about time. I hate skill balances when they're boring.

Can't they do more than just revert things? I'm tired of spamming WoH on everything. =/
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Old May 02, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45   #60
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I can't see why they shouldn't, its a pivotal skill in PvE Balance lol
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